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now. >> thank you john and sandra get afternoon nine jim -- jillian turner in washington in from martha maccallum this is the story former president trump will take the microphone soon and battleground michigan and will discuss inflation, manufacturing, the economy. all of the top issues in this election according to brand-new fox polling from sun belt states. leading all issues buy at least 27 points. when the same voters were asked who they trust more on the economy. the former president trump leading vice president harris by eight points. harris though is narrowly leading trump overall in three of those four sun belt states. new pulling the race is too close to call with here is leading by one point in a head-to-head nationwide well within the margin of error. we have the shark tank star mr. wonderful kevin o'leary on tap but first aisha husni this afternoon in cartersville

michigan awaiting and hearing from former president trump. what do you expect aisha? >> good afternoon to you jillian i think those marks have been delayed a bit now we expect him at the top of the hour, bora clock. i can tell you the economy not just the issue in sun belt states also the issue here in battleground michigan where i've been talking to voters who are super stressed out over not only energy prices but also the housing crisis. they have a lot of complaints and say somebody needs to come in and fix it. they think the former president trump at least supporters behind me say it is him back and do it. listen to this... >> top of mind i think for michigan is the direction of the economy especially the fuel prices, inflation. sea more americans you see a lot of them on the streets. you don't see a lot of them get the help they need but you see people come in from other countries get the help right away. >> so that is a strategy right now in the rust belt. over in the sun belt, fox news

polling shows harris now leads in arizona by a single point. in georgia and nevada by two points but while trump has a one point edge in crucial critical north carolina. all of it of course julian within -- jillian within the margin of era -- area. trump was beating president biden buy at least five points in all of these states before he dropped out. our polling also shows harris as improved upon his numbers when it comes to women and black voters and young voters. top campaign out with the brand-new ad going after those black women and female voters featuring more than a dozen black women in fact some from battleground states all going on the record and denouncing harrah's. but again, economy, economy, economy. you don't hear it enough. you actually hear it a lot here on the trail when you actually talk to voters face-to-face. that's all they want to talk but jillian. >> yes, we will talk about that all our lawn here at the story thank you aisha. let's bring in kevin o'leary the

chairman of o'leary in venture -- ventures and shark tank star and investor. kevin you are the perfect guide to have on this topic. i've been reading up on what you've said over the last couple weeks about the proposal out of the harris campaign. let's start with one of her top economic issues which is her proposed curves to price gouging. you say its been tried as a policy and other countries and has failed, you know, every single time down the line. there is no real way to get it implemented here in the united states right? >> no there isn't. this is soviet style price control with -- which leads to inflation and supplies shortages. very big problems in terms of competition in the market because you don't get competitors coming in when the government decides praising. she was basing that off of the idea of gouging under state laws like texas if there is a flood. a short period where they go after people who raise prices but you can't do it nationally and nobody wants it.

are these very populist idea and impossible to infinite would never pass congress. she seems to be throwing a lot of stuff at the wall. i understand why she's doing it she's being encouraged by what she sees in the polling. but a lot of these proposals have not been scrutinized by you, the reporters, one-on-one interview to actually understand how they'd be implemented. this is an incredibly bad idea it doesn't work in venezuela or north korea. are anywhere. it's just not american. everyone knows that. i am wondering how long she gets away -- i'm not saying she doesn't understand her strategy but throwing this stuff up the wall and not being accountable for it is not how to run a campaign i don't think. i don't think swing state voters smelling and they won't like it. that could hurt her. >> soy want to ask you about housing. one of her other big proposals you say her idea to build jillian: 3 million new homes in the u.s. is just a nonstarter likewise it subsidizing lower

income first-time home buyers 25,000 bucks is only going to cause inflation. to unwrap -- unravel that for us? >> i'm in the real estate market and i'm an investor, many are. it's a state mandate. when you want to build a house you got to get a permit. i don't know what state is going to give a permit for 3 million homes. that's never going to happen secondly the reason there is been so much inflation and housing its not just the market its the regulatory environment. california is a good example. half the cost of a house 40 or 50% is the cost of the regulatory hurdle to get it in the first place. that has to be changed. this idea of giving free money from a helicopter in an inflated market that's tight where there is no supply. the reason there is no supply is how the mortgage is still out there in the next few years ours -- are under four% per if you own one you will never sell your house. >> i'm one of those people. >> while you're not going to cell your house. there is a reason you don't to pay seven% mortgage you

are not dumb. that's why there is idea that yg to give $25,000 tax-free dollars to people. one house on your street for sale let's say and all of a sudden you give nine buyers 25,000 more dollars each. all of it goes to the seller they'll just raise the price tony $5000. this idea is beyond insane. it is the worst policy i've ever heard. everybody in real estate knows it's a nonstarter. that's the second idea i know would never get through congress how many ways can you think to print money. that's why you have inflation you got to stop. remember this is the same person and she's going to have to take scrutiny on these questions and signed the bill that we didn't need. that inflation reduction act it ended up being inflationary. at some point you have to answer so i'm looking forward to this thing tonight it's not live. i've never seen in history a presidential candidate avoid the press. that will end in the next 68 days and then we'll find out

where she stands. it's been working for her but you've got to face the light eventually. >> jillian: got to face the music. kevin let's talk about her tax policy "the wall street journal" has done their analysis is what they report back. they say ultimately big picture here is that under her plan taxes we'll go up for high income households across the board. most americans taxes would remain unchanged are possibly lower. and a whole lot of lower income parents would get some new brakes. does not match year read on it and what do you think? >> i'm worried about something far more sinister. the idea to raise capital gains tax to make america uncompetitive. you got to thank about capital. where the number 1 economy on earth. most foreign capital wants to invest in america because it's competitive. but when all of a sudden your looking at the g20 all countries your sovereign while they want about $100 billion to work in

infrastructure. you care about capital gains tax into care about the corporate tax rate. remember 82% of jobs in america are created by private companies that are corporations. that's who americo works with and for and how we pay for our society. why do you want to punish them for success week so at the end of the day when you make yourself so uncompetitive in the plethora of economies that compete with us and all of a sudden say corporate tax rates of the highest now we are in the bottom quartile of competition, it will be like what happened when we had 28% plus corporate taxes when companies started to go to ireland. we have already tried this it doesn't work. i want to hear her answer that question. out really want to hear how she feels about the number 1 economy. remember she is the steward of the number 1 economy on earth. this is a really, really, really bad idea. incredibly bad policy. >> jillian: kevin i've only got a couple seconds left but

can you lay out her average american voters who may not be, you know, may not have a hole out of the investments are be earning over 1 million a year the folks will get hit hardest with the new harris plan which they should care about the capital gains tax. >> because 62% of jobs in america are where they were. companies between five and 500 employees. you want to do everything in your tax plan to support american entrepreneurship. that's what made this economy over 200 years ago and what keeps it the number 1 destination for capital around the world. we do not want to punish american entrepreneurs. the number 1 export of america is not a product are service its the american dream. that's the number 1 export. don't mess with the american dream. there is a reason people go through barbed wired to try to get in here. we don't do set a policy of weather try to get out of america. that's what i see and i don't

like it. >> jillian: kevin you're pretty persuasive you should may be try out for her to be sure something. but thanks. >> i just tell the truth. i just tell the truth, your honor, that's it. >> thank you for taking time with as we appreciate you as always. >> take care. >> jillian: look at this. hype over whether president trump is going to be muted when he faces off with kamala harris for the first presidential debate september tenth it's reached -- reached a fever pitch in washington pair breaking new details coming up plus our political panel standing by to debate it. stick with us. >> we need sewn on the stage and it has the ability to go toe-to-toe with donald trump and someone who has the ability to rebuild the obama coalition and bring the party and the nation together i believe i'm that candidate.

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♪ ♪ welcome back. the debate over the debate is continuing this hour with vice president harris' campaigns and discussions over final rules are still ongoing. there are big -- their big sticking point is they don't want one candidates microphone muted while the others speaking. we know the microphones we'll all be on muted today for their first interview from harris since announcing her candidacy. ten walls we'll be by her side they're both campaigning -- tim walz. campaigning and battleground georgia. what can you tell smart? >> reporter: hey, jillian it feels like a dance party in here. this is the head of the vice president's speech which will happen this afternoon. but what you are mentioning is it appeared to be a done deal about next month's debate appears to be influx though still. there is campaign said still in

talks with nbc which is opposed to hosted. they won't both candidates both candidates to have their microphones turned on during -- they want. during the entire event. you remember in june during the biden and trump campaigning them one microphone was muted at a time. it's back-and-forth now and the hairs campaign said they're still talking to nbc. senior advisor posted a few moments ago this is what he said. we been asked to receive trump handlers wishes on this. we find the trump team stands to be weak and discussions of the final rules. but you remember the biden team wanted the debate with microphones muted the first time. so the harris campaign said they wanted separate from the original deal that was agreed to. a lot can happen between now and mid-september. we will still be watching for it and it's possible questions about the debate come up today after the cnn interview.

it has wrapped up. the vice president just sitting down for her first interview with her running mate since becoming democratic nominee. the vice president down here is notable because the state democrats are putting a lot of different resources and spending millions on tv adds. introducing harris to voters but ducking the traditional q&a with the press. so far it appears to be working. the latest fox pulling shows harris ahead however it's not a huge leads. they are still tossups. latest pulling shows harris trails trump on a few issues. and regrets still insist they have a lot of momentum and jillian are photos interesting i talked to a woman to -- here who said she hasn't been to a political rally since 1992 with bill clinton and she wanted to be here today. >> jillian: wow thank you. let's bring in president and cofounder of real clear politics and pose a former dnc deputy

national press secretary thank you for joining. tom, in this latest abc version of rules that was leaked to the media today, it looks like the going rate for the upcoming presidential debate is no audience, no written notes and microphones we'll be muted if it sticks kind of being interpreted as a victory for the trump cat. that's what they advocated for. >> those were the original rules, remember it all started because trump agreed to those rules. those were biden's demands for the first debate with cnn. so, you know, when harris became the nominee, she immediately said this and you have to stick to the schedule of debates. there's only one more trump wanted to do one on fox and another network and harris didn't agree. agreed to do the abc debate and now harris is trying to renegotiate the rules of the debate is knowledge troubling --

trump is winning anything he's just agreeing to those rules that were set. >> jillian: so jose the harris campaign on the flip side uses this decision to make the case that the charge can show that candidate. they tell us our later -- our latest understanding is even the trump said he defined with an unmuted mike his handlers don't trust him to spar live with fight -- vp harris and asks abc to ignore comments and keep them muted or that the -- else they will back out of the debate. >> what i think that's a bit extreme. how tell you this there is no question if we have live mics it will make for more energetic and entertaining debate. second i don't think anyone we'll be surprised all will to begin with.

at the end of the day the most important thing is can they translate that's the most important thing coming in november. >> jillian: when you say debates won't move the needle look what happened to president biden two months ago. >> looked and that's a good case. understand that i think that was a very bad night for president biden. usually candidates don't do that bad and it breaks my heart the way that debate handout but it's an exception to the rule. i don't think this will happen in this division she's going to momentum on her side period just

be careful because -- >> jillian: we're getting footage. hold right there we getting footage of the vice president in savannah, georgia. we are awaiting her remarks she just made an unscheduled stop. we are going to listen in for a quick moment and sea if we can get audio on what she is saying to folks there. >> jillian: a little hard to make out we will keep in the air on this and we will bring you back if she audibly addresses the crowd in a meaningful way. let's pick up where we were sorry hosea couple seconds. >> yeah, this is what i was saying is still a close race. i would advise that harris campaign to remember what happened to hillary clinton in 2016. every poll said she was going to be president and obviously she wasn't.

you can have a very exciting campaign and can raise a lot of money but you've got to make sure you translate that momentum >> jillian: perhaps the most challenging tax -- task of all for a presidential candidate. >> it is. and jose is right. the raises vary close he looked the top seven battleground states there is only one in michigan where harris has a 2.2% lee. every other states are less than one% and the average in one direction are another. this really is right now a complete junk ball and a sprint to the front -- finish november fifth. >> jillian: absolutely within the margin of error in most places where she has a lead still things can end up shaking out either way. thank you gentlemen for taking the time with me i appreciated. >> thank you jillian.

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welcome back. you can hear the warm up music playing in the background far president from about to talk about the economy and battleground michigan and we will take you there live as soon as he gets to the podium. in the meantime we've got this. >> everybody's taxes are going to end up going up and the crime is going to become incredible just like new york city. >> jillian: that warning from a town hall meeting six months ago about the migrant crisis in colorado that was in lakewood just outside of denver. now in nearby aurora tells fox news venezuelan gang is taking over apartment buildings. retired nypd directors standing buy but first elisa acuna on the story today reporting on the ground in denver what can you tell us alecia. >> high gillian. our police at this time are not confirming that these men are connected to a federally designated transnational

criminal organization but the mayor of aurora in the last hour confirmed to sandra smith on america reports that venezuelan gangs have taken over several buildings in his city. and the doorbell videos shared with fox news you can see what looks to be a group of five men walking up the stairwell. one has a long gone three others with handguns and another guy is on the phone for we don't know who lives behind that door but watch the second video. these guys appear to be forcing their way into that apartment. aura says these are likely venezuelan gang members who have pushed management out of at least three complexes. >> is only several apparent complexes but nonetheless i will surrender any part of the city to a criminal element.

>> edward and city -- cindy romero moved out just yesterday because they felt it was too dangerous to stay. after this incident happened and a shoot-out earlier this month that left their car with bullet holes. >> we tried reaching out to resources but they told us we didn't want to wait for the issue to -- >> in addition to all of this while making arrests, homeland security investigations link the gang to a recent violent jewish store robbery in nearby denver. jillian. >> jillian: thank you. let's go-ahead to bring in to return and waste -- and ipd inspector also fox news ginger router. all one with the american so this is can just operate along

the syndrome owns business as usual an outbreak in venezuela. take a listen to the city council member. >> it's unreal. residents tell me they feel like they are living in the third world country. pair mark unitary current period related v and quite frankly after tunis george completely again takeover. >> jillian: is a decaying takeover? >> certainly looks like it. let me be the first to congratulate the federal government on it's declination of ta. we'll mask mission orders the case. very good you've designated them but were also waiting around for voodoo.

clearly as donation rations for you issue. is the kind who has an organization we'll the only organization that i've seen no take down a collusive organizational case relativity dda has been here in new york city ready on pg to down a big if and talk about in the air in this months at least and i don't see a towing the water regarding any of these cases. >> jillian: if the fed would do that who would need to be the federal official to launch a case in what abbreviation yang

self? obviously the allocation hang or what to do them in four to begin with. so that's the object that they don't want. there is a number of people here who could bring that number of cases. i refer back to the ms-13 issue though so hot part to a 16. if take their foot off the pedal there. that test scores model is what we need nationwide sure he ag would be great. fbi would be great and my arc as would be great as the head of homeland. but you need a task force model like we did after 9/11 --

mayorkas. it's the same kind of thing. have a task force model in state and locals have the federal retreat federal intel. the locals who know the streets better than anyone else. not making big rico like mafia cases. the problem is if you wait, they will get entrenched peer that's what happened with the mafia. they got so entrenched it took forever to get them out of government and out of the judicial system and elsewhere. you don't these guys to get that entrenched. you got to do it now but it doesn't seem to be the federal will. >> jillian: while, paul it's kind of depressing but thank you for taking time with us in sharing your expertise. hopefully sewn at the federal level will take it up. >> it'll have to be done at some point and should be done suited -- been done sooner. >> jillian: thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up jonathan turley on a new blow to the abundant demonstration student bailout plan. he gets into a coming out next

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many americans. we won't stop an economy that works for every american. let's go-ahead and bring in jonathan turley constitutional law attorney g.w. law professor also fox news contributor. jonathan we got a response from the white house to this ruling. they tell fox the administration will continue to aggressively defend the safe plan and will stop against officials efforts to raise their sin so far students have produced payments under the plan. the may consider it success and i don't know. >> i thought the first posted the red was telling where we had vice president hairs saying i've forgiven billions of dollars. that's the problem. that's why they had to come up

with a new way of doing this. the supreme court previously struck down efforts under the heroes act to forgive hundreds of billions of dollars. basically said you need to go to congress. that's what happens in a democratic system. you go and get the votes in congress. in said of doing that they came up with another statute and said okay we're just going to do it unilaterally under the nea, this education act. and now these lower courts are beginning to question that. but it really comes down to that posting. we have a system where before you give away billions of dollars, usually should go to congress and asked them. we have towering debt in this country. but harris is running on this it's part of the joy campaign. nothing says joy is much as not having to pay your debts. >> so it is not entirely unusual to see presidents try to use there is a negative power to

kind of do congressional workaround but i think, correct me if i'm wrong, is pretty unusual to see them go through multiple rounds with the same policy driven ideas to try and push it through as we are seeing now. >> and, you know, i've been critical of both republican and democratic presidents because it's not how our system ideally works. what has happened here is after a stinging defeat in front of the supreme court saying they are circumventing the constitution dishes and runs -- an unconstitutional effort to give away hundreds of billions of dollars instead of going to congress and saying okay let's have the vote they came up with another statute. if the nea fails i don't know what they will do. maybe they're going to say it falls under the hurricane fund. they seem to be willing to do any type of argument except an argument to congress. they asked representatives of the people do you want to write

it off hundreds of billions of dollars in debt. >> jillian: yes this cdp revise their estimate and now say the whole thing if implemented would cost taxpayers $393 billion. it's quite a lot of money. jonathan we have to leave it there but thank you so much for taking time with us in my world it is i don't know but yours. [laughter] it might -- >> jillian: any minute former president trump will take to the podium to deliver remarks on the economy and he will meet at the steal plant in michigan. will go live after this

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welcome back. former president trump in battleground michigan about to talk about the economy in the county where in the past biden beaten amount by less than one% 2020. let's bring in steve moore and richard fowler fox news contributor thank you for being here. richard this from "wall street journal". karl rove rights trump needs to convince voters harris contributed to how disastrous the last proper years have been.

take inflation, she cast a tie-breaking senate vote by the rescue plan that made it's passage possible that edible $.9 trillion in spending and than stoke inflation by breaking a tie to pass the ablation reduction act 2022 doled out ranges exceed $4 billion. members aside it is a little crazy to me anyway the trump camp is in a position where they have to prove that vice president harris was part of the administration's key policy decisions over the last proper years that's usually given. >> it's usually a given. at thank what's happened in this campaign is because of how the momentum shifted almost seems as though harris and tim walz are the challengers and donald trump and j.d. vance are the incumbents. that has a benignity with how the campaign is playing itself out and up a thing to do with donald trump asking the american voter to remember what the trump

years were like. and its kamala harris and governor tim walz telling americans remember what the future could look like. i think it's over than you do with the makeup of the campaign and the fact of what we've seen democrats do shifting their candidate. our fox polls shows in the sun belt kamala harris making gains and bringing back the biden coalition i would even argue bringing back this obama coalition filling in arenas which is something we've only seen barack obama do we talk about democratic nominees and we will wait to see what the interview gives tonight with our colleague at cnn. but i think what you will sea more and more of his kamala harris continuing to bring back the democratic coalition. that should be something that's very scary to the trump campaign in a world in which most of his speeches are impromptu. >> jillian: it was perhaps the biden coalition he lost before dropped out of the race.

steve, harris says she agrees with some of the items in this new proposal put forward. the new budget proposed -- proposal put forward. specifically, she agrees with the idea raising capital gains taxes particular listen to kevin o'leary after we talked with him at the top of the hours. >> i am worried about subbing for more sinister. the idea to raise capital gains tax to make america uncompetitive. you've got to thank about capital. we are the number 1 economy on earth. most foreign capital wants to invest in america because it's competitive. when all of a sudden, looking at the g20, all countries the sovereign wealthy onto a $100 billion to work and infrastructure. you care about capital gains tax and about the corporate tax rate. this is a really, really, really bad idea. >> jillian: steve what do you say? >> first of all i agree with richard it's really important

for the trump campaign -- >> jillian: i feel like we have a bell when you say that. >> is important for people to remember how prosperous we were under trump. before covid-19 we have the best economy and probably for the u.s. economy. he has to contrast that with what's happened over the past three and a half years and the loss of income. i think it's been an economic catastrophe. two-thirds of americans agree they think the country is headed in the wrong direction. i think is exactly the wrong thing to do with capital gains. john f. kennedy had the capital gains tax rate and bill clinton cut the capital gains tax rate. ronald reagan did. >> jillian: up for the wealthiest americans right? >> no every time we've cut it we've seen an increase in capital tax skins revenues into big increase in investment which is what we want in this economy. there is no saying if you tack

something you get less of it. a few taksim people for your investments you will go up less investment and that's going to make all americans poor. >> where i agree with steve is this i think he is rated for talking about the first two years of the trump presidency the first three year of the trump presidency would likely win the election but i think the american people would remember the mismanagement of the last of the trump presidency. beyond that i think people also are living on the trump tax plan and understand this economy is part of the trump tax plan. i think when you talk to like my mom who is now retired registered nurse or former teachers like tim walz they say i don't know what capital gains tax means. even "the wall street journal" said if you look at tax plan kamala harris it would benefit working-class and teachers and going after this election which is why you see him moving towards her.

>> their own hundred 50 million americans today and everyone watching the show even if they don't directly own stock they have stock in their 401(k) plans. i do, you do, you do. everyone is affected. >> jillian: even tim walz has one. >> let's not forget more people died from covid-19 under kamala harris. but never to. >> in the states that shut -- but the dark back states. >> hold on the second. this is the same problem as the -- if he cut tax for the wealthiest americans and corporations they will create all these jobs and google and microsoft kept that money. >> jillian: sorry to cut you off but we have a heart break coming up right now -- a heartbreak. stick with us we are awaiting

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welcome back. with take you to another live look at battleground michigan where any moment president trump is about to talk about the economy and we will take their lives as soon as he is at the podium. first we've got neil: this. a lawyer resenting two men wounded during the assassination attempt on the former president butler, pennsylvania, says putting five secret service agents only if it is a good first step but also tells fox news digital his clients who are 74-year-old james copenhaver and

57-year-old david dutcher recovering at home now with their families. they want answers either from the government investigators are possibly a lawsuit. listen. >> how does somebody, you hear the reports coming out about a euro being flown in the air. you know, the day of. how does that happen? how do you miss somebody walking across the roof? we saw it on the video. we all watched honest croaks watch a court -- walk across the rooftop. >> jillian: acting secret service director told congress he cannot defend why the roof was not better secured before and during the rally and the agency takes hold responsible at. for that failure. this is the story thursday august on a not but as always the story goes on we will sea you back here tomorrow at three eastern. ♪ ♪ your world begins now. ♪ ♪ >> neil: you are looking live

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